Mike McGonegal for the Michigan House

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10/02/2006

Junket leads Ward to say do as I say not as I do

We have yet another example of the ethically challenged Chris Ward telling you to do as I say not as I do. It was revealed in the Sunday Daily Press & Argus that Mr. Ward took an all-expense paid trip to Taiwan in August.

This all came about after Dick Devos said in a newspaper article last week that he thinks government officials should not take trips paid for by lobbyists. See the link here,
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060927/NEWS06/609270314/1008.
Mr. Ward was also quoted in that article as saying he is trying to get legislation like that passed, but in reality he introduced it only so he can campaign as a reformer, knowing it has little chance of passing, even though his party controls both the House and Senate. In taking this vacation junket he’s doing exactly what he says he’s trying to ban. (See posts for 9/14, 9/5, 7/5 and 6/28).

This reminds me so much of the current scandal with U.S. Rep. Mark Foley, who resigned after it came out he was sending obscene e-mails to 16-year-old House Pages. Foley is the co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. He, like Mr. Ward, is trying to ban something he is guilty of. It makes you wonder if they are trying to draw suspicion away from themselves.

The funny part was not only was Ward quoted in the story, but so was the Michigan Beer and Wine Wholesalers Association, who have bankrolled Mr. Ward’s campaigns in exchange for him trying to sneak a bill by that would have required anyone who wants to order a bottle of wine in Michigan to go through them. That action led one veteran and respected journalist to say this about Mr. Ward’s alleged campaign finance reform:

“That is the moral equivalent of Monica Lewinsky opening a charter school of chastity. If Chris were in another occupation, he might have a mattress strapped to his back.”

Mr. Ward’s justification for taking the all-expenses paid vacation is absolutely ridiculous. He says Taiwan is a foreign government that does not lobby in Michigan or have lobbyists, so Mr. Ward says they cannot lobby him. He also claims, correctly, that the House does not set foreign policy. That raises the obvious question; then why the heck did you go at all? Did you bring back a commitment from a company to move to Michigan? No.

Taiwan is a province of Communist China, and don’t you think they have government officials whose only job is lobbying? They could even be called propagandists. For Mr. Ward to say the Chinese government does not lobby is ridiculous.

I guess we now know why Mr. Ward refused to support an amendment banning all foreign sources of contributions to political campaigns in Michigan last month (see our post of 9/18).

He claims a benefit of the trip is because there could be an opportunity to “…sell waste products from agriculture in Taiwan – animal organs, that is, that local ranchers might throw away but are considered delicacies in Taiwan.” I’m no farm expert, but I know of no “local ranchers” that slaughter their own herd and produce and package their own meat. Also, I don’t think slaughterhouses and packinghouses waste any part of the slaughtered animal.

State Rep. Chris Ward, not surprisingly, came out in favor of DeVos' ideas — how, then, did the Brighton Township Republican get a free trip to Taiwan in August?
Ward spent a week on the island off the coast of China, courtesy of the Taiwanese government.
He said a delegation of 12 state lawmakers, three each from Michigan, Illinois, Iowa and Indiana, went on the trip, and visited business and government officials. Many expressed a desire to open up trade with the midwestern states, Ward said.
He didn't come home with any specific business deals, but said there is an opportunity to sell waste products from agriculture in Taiwan — animal organs, that is, that local ranchers might throw away but are considered delicacies in Taiwan. Ward forwarded that information to the state Department of Agriculture.
He also said Taiwan, like Michigan, is dealing with competition from China and trying to diversify its economy.
Is Ward contradicting himself by taking the free travel? No, he said, because the government of Taiwan doesn't lobby the Michigan Legislature, and the Legislature doesn't enact foreign policy.
"The line that's crossed is when it's a group that has the ability to lobby or impact public policy," Ward said. "We don't create foreign policy here in Michigan. I don't think there is an ethical problem whatsoever. If it was paid for by a group lobbying the Legislature, there would be a great deal of concern."
The other Michigan lawmakers on the trip were Republican Reps. Bruce Caswell of Hillsdale and Leon Drolet of Macomb Township.
Mike McGonegal, the Green Oak Township Democrat challenging Ward in November, questioned Ward's reasoning.
"This is the worst form of hypocrisy," McGonegal said. "No foreign government is going to pay for a junket without expecting something in return ... it doesn't pass the smell test."

12 Comments:

At 5:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course it doesn't pass the smell test because it stinks to the high heavens!

Just a little all expenses paid for trip for the hell of it!

Ward reminds be of Foley because they're both squirmy little Republicans who prey on kids or leave their families whenever they feel the urge but they'll preach that good ol' Republican Family Value bullshit to you every chance they get!

Way past time for change!

 
At 9:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, nice language, y&bdg ... do you kiss your kids with that mouth?

Why are you two even mentioning Mark Foley and Chris Ward in the same sentence? That's disgusting. Ward has nothing whatsoever to do with him. You have nothing to say, so you try to slime Ward by mentioning Foley? You don't have anything better than that?

Should we link Mike McGonegal and Marion Barry because they're both Democrats?

 
At 10:36 PM, Blogger Communications guru said...

Thanks for posting, Y&bdg. We hope you continue to post and comment here. I agree with you 100 percent when you say it does not pass the smell test, and I, like you, would like to know why Mr. Ward made the vacation trip. He gives us a lame excuse why it’s not illegal or unethical, but what he really did was take away any reason for actually going, other than to have some fun in Taiwan. I would sure like him to tell us why, but somehow I doubt that answer will be forthcoming.

The voters of the 66th District have refused to hold him accountable for his many ethical lapses in the past, and he has taken full advantage of that free pass. You’re right, it’s time for a change, and the change will be the constituents of the 66th District holding him accountable for the first time.

 
At 10:51 PM, Blogger Communications guru said...

I also want to thank you for posting anonymous, even though you didn't have enough belief in what you wrote to actually take ownership of your comments. I find it a little hard to believe you would take him to task for using the word BS.

I can’t answer why he used Make Foley and Chris Ward’s name in the same sentence, but I can answer why I did in my post; simply because it fits. Because both Foley and Mr. Ward are the ones trying to outlaw something they are guilty of; in Foley’s case its pedophilia, and in Mr. Ward’s case it’s accepting free trips from lobbyists.

As for comparing Marion Berry and Mike McGonegal there is simply no basis for it. Mike has not nor will he ever proposed legislation or a law that he will not hold himself to. As for Marion Berry all I really know about him is that he was the mayor of DC and a drug addict.

Now, if you want to try and make a case that Mike and MB should be linked, be my guest and go ahead and try and make a case.

I look forward to seeing what you have to say.

 
At 9:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous here again.

It's nice to see you're encouraging cursing on this blog. That reflects very nicely on Mr. McGonegal.

It still doesn't fit to put Foley and Ward in the same sentence. You're stretching, and it's hurting your argument.

And if you don't like me linking McGonegal and Marion Barry, how about McGonegal and a fellow Livingston County Democrat, Shane "Rap Sheet" Roscoe?

You're all indignant about Foley - I must have missed the posting where McGonegal criticized his fellow Democrat for failing to reveal his criminal past to the voters. Apparently, McGonegal has no problem with Shane Roscoe. Is he endorsing him?

 
At 10:57 PM, Blogger Communications guru said...

Have you posted here before? I’m not sure because you do not even think enough of what you write to take ownership of it. But we welcome all comments, no matter how uninformed.

If not taking offense to the harmless word "shit" means I’m encouraging cursing then so be it. This is at least a PG-13 site. Comparing Foley and Mr. Ward is very applicable. They were both caught doing something they say they are dead set against. That makes them both hypocrites.

I said I had no problem with you - if that was you I replied to earlier since you don’t have the courage to own up to what you write – trying to compare Mike with Marion Berry. I said then and I say now, go for it and try and make your best case.

As for this Shane Roscoe, if I recall correctly he’s running for supervisor in Unadilla Township, correct? I also seem to recall he has not been convicted of anything, or even arraigned yet. If and when any of that happens I think he should step down.

You are correct, I am “all indignant about Foley,” and I’m shocked you are not. What’s even more shocking is the so-called republican leadership knew about the e-mails for a long time, and what did they do? They placed him in charge of the Missing and Exploited Children Caucus. He was well qualified fro that job because he was one of those people actually exploiting the children.

If Mike knew Mr. Roscoe committed the crime he is charged with, it would be wrong for him to put him in charge of a committee, for instance, that oversees law enforcement. That’s basically what happened with Foley. However, Mike is not in a leadership position or even an elected official, yet.

You did not miss the post where Mike “criticized his fellow Democrat for failing to reveal his criminal past to the voters.” Why should he? That’s not a race Mike or I are even aware of. His alleged criminal record is public information. I don’t possibly see how you can criticize Mike for not doing the media’s, your party’s and the voter’s job for them.

Where do you get the impression Mike “has no problem with Shane Roscoe?” Of course Mike is not endorsing him. He doesn’t live in Unadilla, and it’s not even in the 66th District. What did Mr. Ward and Joe Hune, since it’s in his district, say about Mr. Roscoe?

 
At 9:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As for this Shane Roscoe, if I recall correctly he’s running for supervisor in Unadilla Township, correct? I also seem to recall he has not been convicted of anything, or even arraigned yet..."

Are you kidding me? Don't you read the paper?

Shane Roscoe is running for supervisor in Putnam Township. He's been convicted of numerous felonies, none of which he saw fit to reveal to the voters.

Like McGonegal, he's a Democrat.

So, is McGonegal endorsing him or not? And don't give me this garbage about McGonegal not living in his district. He doesn't live in Mary Andersson's district, either, and I'm guessing he's endorsing her.

ANSWER THE QUESTION: Is McGonegal endorsing this convicted felon, or isn't he?

 
At 11:17 PM, Blogger Communications guru said...

No, I’m not kidding, and yes I read the newspaper. I’m not all that concerned about a story that has absolutely zero effect on me. However, even thought this has absolutely nothing to do with Mike McGoneal or this race, I read up on it, and what I find tells me you don’t have a leg to stand on, who ever you are.

This is from an editorial in the Press & Argus two days ago, “…was arrested at his home and detained at the Washtenaw County Jail for nearly two days in August. Authorities announced at the time that he would likely be immediately arraigned. But the charges never materialized. Roscoe was released. Police, who will not even confirm that Roscoe was the man they arrested and intended to charge, say they are now waiting for the results of DNA tests that could still could still be months away. Police have linked him to a serious crime, but refuse to acknowledge his existence, much less expedite the lab tests.”

To me that means he has not even been charged, and you have already convicted him. Have you ever head of this thing called the Constitution or the Bill of Rights? I have no idea if he has been convicted of any actual felonies, crimes yes, and if he has, aren’t convicted felon not allowed to vote? If he can’t vote he can’t run for office. What he chooses to tell voters is his business, and a criminal record is public record for anyone to see. It’s not illegal not to. I believe after a person pays his debt to society he should be able to continue with his life as long as he obeys the law and any restrictions placed on him. That has happened has it not? It’s up to the voters to decide if his past record makes him unfit for office. When he is arraigned he should step down until the end of the trial, and if he is guilty he should resign immediately.

Yes, like Mike he is a Democrat. What is the point of that?

No, like I said before he is not endorsing him, and why should he? The difference between Mary Andersson and Mr. Roscoe is Mary Andersson will be a colleague serving in the same body Mike will be serving in. Mike will never ever serve on the Township Board with Mr. Roscoe.

I HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION, AGAIN.

 
At 9:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, I like this blog a lot. It's interesting, and you work hard at it. You should be proud. We both know that McGonegal has no chance of winning, but at least you're putting up a good fight, which is more than the Democrats have done in the past.

But as soon as the Mark Foley story came out, your first thought was, "Hmmmm ... how can I link him to Chris Ward?" That's beyond sad.

Stick to your attacks on the issues, and you'll be fine.

 
At 12:20 PM, Blogger Communications guru said...

Thank you for your kind words. We try and keep new and interesting material up everyday. I once thought like you that a Democrat has no chance of winning in Livingston County, and I was just doing this for the experience and to help a friend. But after hearing Mike talk to the voters every night who say they are Republicans but voting for him anyway I’m starting to believe. There’s an anti-incumbency feeling, and Mr. Ward has a lousy record. But even if we lose we will make Mr. Ward pay attention to the voters for the first time.

As for Mark Foley, in no way was I implying Mr. Ward is a pedophile, and if I gave that impression I apologize and I will personally apologize to him if that’s the case. I was pointing out the irony of a pedophile being assigned to chair the Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. And Ward, who has no ethics, being assigned to chair the committee on ethics. I stand by that comparison, and I make no apologies for that.
Thank you for your input, and I hope you continue to post.

 
At 10:02 AM, Blogger money michigan said...

Mike has not endorsed me in any way shape or form. I am Shane Roscoe and i was questioned about a crime. as a former employee of the dealership and so were 21 other employees at the dealership. there is no endictment no arraignment no charges no nothing. I had nothing to do with the issue period. the only reason anyone has heard about this issue is because a newspaper had nothing better to inflame or blow up for a story. had i not been running for office you or anyone else would have never heard anything of the issue. i deal with facts obviously those of you who deal on rummors need that as an edge to get ahead. stop the bull and stand up for fact. Not hearsay that is the main reason this country is in the shape it is today republicans look for any dirt and try to add it to others. well the dirt on me has to do with me and only me no other candidate should even be asked about me. this bullshit about convictions and why i didnt put my past out well to be blunt its public record get off your ass and look yourself. why do you want someone else to do your work. I work my tail off and yes i made mistakes but trying to give something back to the community seems to be an uphill battle but thats whats sets me apart from most, im willing to climb up that hill while most sit at the bottom waiting for a ride. as you see i dont hide i dont run and least of all i properly introduce myself under my name and not under the cover of an assumed name. I stand up for myself and other democrats. I say what i feel and with that atleast you know where im comming from be it politicly correct or not.you try and blame others for your short falls well i have a record i did my time i payed my debt and i vote candidates rely on that vote to get elected into office so why shouldnt i be allowed to run for office or is it that it should be a two faced policy vote for me 78000 people with convictions but dont run for office. seems to me your saying once a conviction you have no rights. that is not what our constitution says and one thing I will never go against our constitution. Yes I'm still running and I still have a great chance of winning.

 
At 11:59 AM, Blogger money michigan said...

as far as you Mr Anonymous standing up for the men that are pedifiles, where are your morals where are your thoughts concerning child pornography ?????? we see where they are . I say what i feel and you mr. anonymous cant even stand for yourself you have to hide behind the scenes taking pot shots like a rapist in the bushes of course you voted for george after all he is a bush........

 

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